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Post by Imbeglín Oronrá on Mar 26, 2004 3:58:22 GMT -5
I haven't got this book, but I've got the Complete Tolkien Companion and I know a website where all the info can be found, but no-one will get that info out of me. Re-opened.
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Post by manwe on Apr 2, 2004 14:09:28 GMT -5
I have now got the complete Tolkiens Encyclopeidia, so if you have any questions, i'll answer them I think this one is better. It has alot more info.
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Post by manwe on Apr 3, 2004 7:52:12 GMT -5
FANGORNFollowing on from earlier, ill post all the stuff i have on Fangorn This sindarin word meaning "Beard-of tree" is used in the red bookto mea both the great forest, which stood on the side of the Misty Mountains, and the venerableguardian ent who ruled that strange country. it is not clear if the forest was named after the ent, or the other way about; however, it is certain that both are of exceedingly great age. Fangorn himself claimed that the wood had seen over 3 ages of the outside world. Indeed, both treebeard's forest and the old forest near the shire were the last remainingenclaves of the great woods of the Eldar days, and both contained deep vales from which the greater darkness had never been lifted. Tree beard put it another way: Taurelilómea-tumbalemorna Tumbaletauréa Lómeanor ("Forestmanyshadowed-deepvalletblack deepvalleyforested gloomyland") was the old nets particular expression for those dark regions. This translates (very approximatly) as: "There is a black shadow in the deep vales of the forest." It is delivered in a typically Entish agglomeration of Elvish (Quenya) words- Taure, tumbo and lóme are the original forms of the quenya names for forest, [deep] valley, and many shadowed respectively
That si all there is on the actual forest, but if theres anything else you want to know about ANYTHING, just ask.
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Post by Galdor Nénharma on Apr 4, 2004 14:52:16 GMT -5
Do you have the names of the Wizards before the departed from the west? I remember Galdalfs was a maiar named something like Olonir, but what were the rest?
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Post by manwe on Apr 4, 2004 15:04:51 GMT -5
well the book doesn't really go into it, but i know there was one called Melian. She was an elf in the first age. And i beleive that Radagst the Brown was one also.
That is all i have, but ill keep looking and cross refrencing.
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Post by Elrohir on Apr 4, 2004 15:08:46 GMT -5
Ohh, so much talk of which i didnt previously know anything about ;D
Is there anything on the Iron Hills or whatever their called?
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Post by manwe on Apr 4, 2004 15:12:30 GMT -5
There is the Iron Mountains, or the Iron Hills. The Iron hills being where Durin lives.
Which one?
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Post by Elrohir on Apr 4, 2004 15:14:12 GMT -5
Um, i think i meant the Iron Hills, the ones where Durin lives...
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Post by manwe on Apr 4, 2004 15:17:04 GMT -5
Well, in that case, i promise to post asap, as im going round a friends tomorrow.
I cant post it now, because it is about 2 pages long, and im really tired.
I promise to post it asap. Promise.
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Post by Elrohir on Apr 4, 2004 15:23:09 GMT -5
Lol ok, i can wait ;D
I didnt expect thee to be that much on the Iron Hills really, it was just one of those things that ive never heard much about before...
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Post by Imbeglín Oronrá on Apr 4, 2004 15:33:58 GMT -5
Here's something I found -
Radagast - Aiwendil
Gandalf - Olórin
Saruman - Curumo
Blue Wizards - Ithryn Luin - Alatar and Pallando
These are the other names of the five Istari.
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Post by manwe on Apr 7, 2004 12:44:16 GMT -5
Thanks Imbegín. That was handy. Ok, here is the iron hills.
The location of 1 of the 2 settlements of Durins folk in the latter years of the third age. These mountains lay about thirty leagues east of Ereborand formed the only natural barrier between Mirkwood and the wide lands of the east. The colony there was begun in the year 2590 third age, after attacks by dragons gad forced the dwarves out of the Grey Mountains. Then Grór son of Dáin I, together with manyof Durins folk, went to the iron hills, while his eldar brother Thrór, Durins heirled the greater part of them back to the lonely mountain, founded long before by Thráin I For a while the 2 Dwarf kingdomsflourished. Although the Dwarves of the Iron Hills were a cadet badge of the line of Durin, they were numerousand well armed, and while their welth did not compare with that of Erebor, perhaps this very lack saved them from the unwelcome attentions of the Dragons. For it was the lonely mountains, fafabuously welthy and full of Dwarves grown fat with prosperity , that Smaug the Golden, greatest worm of his day, eventually chose as his dwelling-place in 2770. For the 170 years that Smaug reigned in Erebor, the Iron hills colony, led by desentants of Grór, boasted the only secure Dwarf settlement in the west of Middle-earth. Yet despite their toughness and feirce disposition, even the Dwarves of the Iron hills were no match for the forces which Sauron began to assemblein the east as the age waned. And it was cheifly for this reason that, in the year 2941, Gandalf the Grey purposed to bring about the reinstatement of the kingdom of Erebor and the detruction of the Dragon. After the death of Smaug there followed a crutial period when the Dwarves of Erebor were in dispute with both the men of Esgaroth and the Elves of Mirkwood over the diposal of the dragon hoard. To back his claim with force, Thorin Oakensheild, beseiged in the lonely mountain, sent secretly to the Dwarves of the Iron Hills (now led by Dáin Ironfoot, grandson of Grór). Over 500 of these sturdy people set out to aid Thorin , fully prepared to give battle to the Elves and men on behalf of their kin. However, this greivious clash was averted by the timely arrival of an invading army of orcs, the foes of all; and the mattocks and axes of the Iron hills were put to better use on orc-necks. As Thorin Oakensheild was slain in this battle, Dáin Ironfoot, Durin's heir, became the new king under the mountain. He ruled both Dwarf realms with great wisdom until he fell at the last in the war of the ring.
Next?
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Post by Gelmir Elensar on Apr 10, 2004 11:21:56 GMT -5
Hey, just want to say once again Amras your stealing Feanaro's thing, this was his and once again your acting like you made it, it's totally unfair and the reason he left was actually because of you, he thought the way you pciked him out from others was unfair and that you never picked up on your own mistakes and always made a big deal about his, I know this is not on topic but I thought I should say it, and I still dont get what you meant about Feanaros book being SPAM or something could you enlighten me on that.
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Post by Elrohir on Apr 11, 2004 14:27:59 GMT -5
Ok, first thing: Feanaro left for a whole manner of reasons, granted one of them was Amras's petty form of bullying, but that wasnt just it, so he didnt leave because of Amras.
Second: Amras is merely continuating from Feanaros posts, he is not acting like he thought of the idea.
Third: I believe we resolved the issue about Amras calling Feanaros extract from the book spam. We found that Amras wasnt calling it spam at all, please read the thread again.
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Post by feanaromithrandir on Apr 11, 2004 16:44:18 GMT -5
Ehhhhhh Elrohir I think I did leave because of Amras, I told Gelmir that and I think you should maybe think about the fact that he's my friend and he knows better than you why I left, and it's not petty bullying it's a little thing called hmmmm..... UNFAIR JUDGEMENTATION, he treated me totally different and picked on all my mistakes and tried to ridicule me infront of the kinship, I got fed up and left so you can thank him for my leave.
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